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		<title>By: yoda909</title>
		<link>http://defendourdefenders.org/?p=410&#038;cpage=1#comment-92</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 12:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Below is an e-mail I sent last week to one of our Illinois representatives:

 I am confident that you will help us STOP this horrible plan, but I wanted to add some points for your consideration.
 

1. Please don&#039;t let the flood of lawsuits start by letting the terrorists on US soil. Once we let them on US soil, there will be a flood of lawsuits filed by the terrorist funded factions, to drive the US Govt to release intelligence information.  Even when these motions are denied, we are forced to show some of our cards.  We show what information we DO and DON&#039;T have.  The reason for these suits is not to secure the prisoners&#039; release. It&#039;s to push information into the public domain so that our enemies can gauge what we know, and adjust their tactics accordingly.  They want to swamp our system just responding to these, and obtain key tactical information. 

Guantanamo Bay was set up for a fundamental reason of basic principles, to keep these non-citizen enemies from even being claimed to have the rights of American citizens. 
(BTW: Everyone was on board with this immediately after 9/11, the objections to our spectrum of actions against terrorism didn&#039;t start until the campaign season when Democrats tried to elect John Kerry. They&#039;ve been simply a political call, not an informed component of our security).

2. &quot;Hiding in plain sight&quot;.  This is in progress right now, and the Thompson area will be subject to having &quot;visitors&quot; coming in and out of the area.  Some to be &quot;visitors&quot; to the detainees, some to measure the strength of our security.  If any of your colleagues don&#039;t believe this, they should be reminded of what happened in Kinsman, IL (about 100 miles from Thompson) just a couple of months ago, when the FBI busted a goat-meat processing business that was operating as a money laundering facility for terrorists in the middle east!  The citizens of the Thompson are deserve better than having those rats weaving in and out of their communities. 

Please understand:  Even a secure prison that is able to fend off an attack or attempted break-out isn&#039;t a victory. The terrorists constantly &#039;poke the bear&#039; to see what sensitivities exist, and to tune their tactics.  If an attack on the prison includes an initial diversion attack that blows up a nearby school, fending off the attack at the prison is of little value. 

3. If keeping these terrorists is so safe, then they should stay in the city of Chicago where their sponsors are from. Rahm Emanual, Dick Durbin, and Barak Obama can all use their influence to bring them to THEIR home town. What makes the rural people so expendable to have all the risk dumped out here?

4. I saw your interview on Fox News, and appreciate the concerns you raise.  However, I will disagree with one point of yours.  That being, that the economy weighs in as a factor in a decision like this.  I disagree.  For Thompson and Illinois in general, this is a Faustian bargain.  I would not blur RIGHT vs WRONG with financial issues.  WRONG is WRONG, period. The state&#039;s poor financial conditions are unfortunate, but that&#039;s a different problem, and participating in such a horrible and very mistaken action is just wrong.  

Please don&#039;t let this financial pain obscure a decision that should be based on principle. (as an highlight of this point, we could talk ourselves into allowing all kinds of immoral or mistaken actions if we relaxed principle whenever we need money). 

I appreciate you consideration.  If I am able to get to the Sterling Rally, I&#039;ll be there and ask to present points like this, but I&#039;m afraid I likely can&#039;t get off work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Below is an e-mail I sent last week to one of our Illinois representatives:</p>
<p> I am confident that you will help us STOP this horrible plan, but I wanted to add some points for your consideration.</p>
<p>1. Please don&#8217;t let the flood of lawsuits start by letting the terrorists on US soil. Once we let them on US soil, there will be a flood of lawsuits filed by the terrorist funded factions, to drive the US Govt to release intelligence information.  Even when these motions are denied, we are forced to show some of our cards.  We show what information we DO and DON&#8217;T have.  The reason for these suits is not to secure the prisoners&#8217; release. It&#8217;s to push information into the public domain so that our enemies can gauge what we know, and adjust their tactics accordingly.  They want to swamp our system just responding to these, and obtain key tactical information. </p>
<p>Guantanamo Bay was set up for a fundamental reason of basic principles, to keep these non-citizen enemies from even being claimed to have the rights of American citizens.<br />
(BTW: Everyone was on board with this immediately after 9/11, the objections to our spectrum of actions against terrorism didn&#8217;t start until the campaign season when Democrats tried to elect John Kerry. They&#8217;ve been simply a political call, not an informed component of our security).</p>
<p>2. &#8220;Hiding in plain sight&#8221;.  This is in progress right now, and the Thompson area will be subject to having &#8220;visitors&#8221; coming in and out of the area.  Some to be &#8220;visitors&#8221; to the detainees, some to measure the strength of our security.  If any of your colleagues don&#8217;t believe this, they should be reminded of what happened in Kinsman, IL (about 100 miles from Thompson) just a couple of months ago, when the FBI busted a goat-meat processing business that was operating as a money laundering facility for terrorists in the middle east!  The citizens of the Thompson are deserve better than having those rats weaving in and out of their communities. </p>
<p>Please understand:  Even a secure prison that is able to fend off an attack or attempted break-out isn&#8217;t a victory. The terrorists constantly &#8216;poke the bear&#8217; to see what sensitivities exist, and to tune their tactics.  If an attack on the prison includes an initial diversion attack that blows up a nearby school, fending off the attack at the prison is of little value. </p>
<p>3. If keeping these terrorists is so safe, then they should stay in the city of Chicago where their sponsors are from. Rahm Emanual, Dick Durbin, and Barak Obama can all use their influence to bring them to THEIR home town. What makes the rural people so expendable to have all the risk dumped out here?</p>
<p>4. I saw your interview on Fox News, and appreciate the concerns you raise.  However, I will disagree with one point of yours.  That being, that the economy weighs in as a factor in a decision like this.  I disagree.  For Thompson and Illinois in general, this is a Faustian bargain.  I would not blur RIGHT vs WRONG with financial issues.  WRONG is WRONG, period. The state&#8217;s poor financial conditions are unfortunate, but that&#8217;s a different problem, and participating in such a horrible and very mistaken action is just wrong.  </p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t let this financial pain obscure a decision that should be based on principle. (as an highlight of this point, we could talk ourselves into allowing all kinds of immoral or mistaken actions if we relaxed principle whenever we need money). </p>
<p>I appreciate you consideration.  If I am able to get to the Sterling Rally, I&#8217;ll be there and ask to present points like this, but I&#8217;m afraid I likely can&#8217;t get off work.</p>
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		<title>By: AllacrossAmerica</title>
		<link>http://defendourdefenders.org/?p=410&#038;cpage=1#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>AllacrossAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These corrupt piles of human refuge  that run this state and who send that Marxist from their very own hell hole known as Chicago better start listening to us. 

&quot;If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.&quot;
Sam Adams 1776
 

LOCK &amp; LOAD.......America</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These corrupt piles of human refuge  that run this state and who send that Marxist from their very own hell hole known as Chicago better start listening to us. </p>
<p>&#8220;If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.&#8221;<br />
Sam Adams 1776</p>
<p>LOCK &amp; LOAD&#8230;&#8230;.America</p>
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		<title>By: AAR: Keep Terrorists in Gitmo Protest in Illinois &#171; Gathering of Eagles: NY</title>
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		<dc:creator>AAR: Keep Terrorists in Gitmo Protest in Illinois &#171; Gathering of Eagles: NY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 911 Never forget has a report here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; Rallying against Gitmo North</title>
		<link>http://defendourdefenders.org/?p=410&#038;cpage=1#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; Rallying against Gitmo North</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Our Defenders continues to step up to the plate. Here&#8217;s the latest on the citizen backlash against the Obama administration&#8217;s Gitmo North plans at Thomson Correctional [...]</description>
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